So with all this talk of an overgrown 500 being the next Jeep...

"BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather" (bugeyedacura) 12/27/2013 at 10:56 • Filed to: None

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I ask, would a more "car-like" Jeep be any more blasphemous? In all seriousness, with their off-road chops, I think Jeep should take the Dart and make a rally king WRX-killer. That would be so awesome to see.

crown victor victoria > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 10:59

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As long as they have as much freedom with the platform as they did with the Cherokee's, I think at the very least it will be an interesting vehicle.

Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 11:16

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Why does that car have a volume control on the side?

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Doge_Supreme drives a BRZ 12/27/2013 at 11:17

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Who needs sway bars anyway > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 11:22

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The New Cherokee is essentially based on the dart. If Jeep made a "car" that was labled a car (and not a soft roader) that could compete with the WRX or STI or Evo I would be all for it. But the direction they are taking things now just makes me want to kill kittens.

Frank Grimes > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 11:24

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They need to revive AMC and make some sweet AWD rally machines and call them eagles or something.

Lazzris > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 11:29

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What is with this whole we are not making trucks that do truck things. If I wanted a car like ride I would buy a car. I do a lot of camping and I need a truck or SUV that can perform Off road. Right now I have to pay an arm and leg for a good SUV or buy an older model. WTF American car makers? Get with it.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > Frank Grimes 12/27/2013 at 11:39

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That would be the perfect name for the rally car. The Jeep Eagle. No need to revive an extra marquee for it. If they can sell a jacked up 500L as a Jeep, they can make a legit car and market it as a Jeep.

HammerheadFistpunch > Who needs sway bars anyway 12/27/2013 at 11:48

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They make a Grand Cherokee SRT, and they could make a Cherokee SRT, a car they wont make.

nermal > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 12:30

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Where does this fit in with regards to the Compass and Patriot? Below them, or as a replacement to them?

Building a Jeep on the 500L platform is fine, as long as it doesn't end up too girly. They've set the precedent already that a FWD-biased AWD system is acceptable, so we can assume this will be the same. Will it be pretty much a mini-Cherokee? If so, I think it will sell well if priced low enough, without coming off as cheap.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > nermal 12/27/2013 at 12:57

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I think the new Cherokee is the replacement for the Liberty and the Patriot. The new 500-based "Jeepster" will essentially be a repacement for the Compass. My idea would slot in around the same price as Cherokees, 22-32k, and would offer an alternative to the Cherokee as a vehicle with more sporty intentions.

My scale would cover the following:

Jeep Eagle Base - 22k - 220hp version of the TigerShark 2.4 hooked up to a 6-speed and AWD.

Jeep Eagle Limited - 25k - Same powertrain, but with more lux features (sunroof, alcantara trimmed seats and steering wheel, LEDs)

Jeep Eagle Trailhawk - 28k - Fully stripped and single-minded version. 3000 lbs even, and engine upgraded to 240hp.

SRT Eagle - 32k - Turbo version of the 2.4 good for 310hp, with either a 6MT or 8AT offered. Still going through an AWD system, but with adjustable differentials.

nermal > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 14:25

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The 500L starts at 19k for a FWD manual version with the 1.4L / 160HP engine. Call the Jeepster with the same specs $19,995, simply so they can advertise it as starting under $20k. That leaves you roughly $2k less across the board than a larger, more powerful, but comparable trim level Cherokee. Remember, add $1k to the base price for the auto that 98% of them will sell with.

Not sure how well received it will be at that price.

BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather > nermal 12/27/2013 at 14:33

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I'm not saying the Eagle would be based on the 500. The Eagle would be based on the Dart, and a completely different vehicle from the new 500-based Jeepster.

JustWaitingForAMate > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/27/2013 at 17:29

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Master Chief approves of this vehicle.

Team6.1 > BugEyedBimmer - back in the Saddle Dakota Leather 12/29/2013 at 21:19

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Jeep/Dart AWD rally STI killer....you have my full attention